SUBVideo · 9 min ·suspension

Ultra Bee suspension setup by rider weight

Sag first, clickers second, and a starting point for riders from 130 to 220 lbs. Most bikes we see are set up for nobody: stock clickers, stock preload, and a rider who never checked either.

Setting suspension sag on an electric dirt bike
Setting suspension sag on an electric dirt bike
The short version
  • Set sag before you touch a clicker. Clickers cannot fix a spring that is wrong for your weight.
  • Rider sag lands around 30% of total travel for trail riding. That is the target everything else works from.
  • Count clicks from fully closed, always. It is the only way to know where you actually are.
  • One change at a time, two clicks at a time, same section of trail each time.
  • If preload is maxed and sag is still too deep, you need a spring, not an adjustment.

Suspension is the upgrade riders talk about last and feel first. A bike set up for your weight is easier to ride fast, easier to ride slow, and much less tiring over a long day. None of that requires new parts. Most of it requires a tape measure and a friend.

Sag comes first

Sag is how far the suspension settles under weight. It sets where in the travel the bike sits when you are on it, which determines how much travel is left for absorbing hits and how the bike balances front to rear. Get it wrong and every clicker adjustment after it is a workaround.

Free sag
Bike settling under its own weight
Rider sag
Bike settling with you on it, in gear
~30%
Typical rider sag target, share of travel

Free sag tells you whether the spring rate is right. Rider sag tells you whether the preload is right. If free sag is near zero and rider sag is correct, your spring is too stiff. If preload runs out before rider sag comes up to target, your spring is too soft.

Measuring sag

What you need
  • A tape measure that reads millimeters
  • A friend. Two is better.
  • All your riding gear on, including the helmet and pack
  • Spanner or preload tool for your shock
01
Fully extended

Get the rear wheel off the ground so the shock is topped out. Measure from the axle to a fixed point on the fender you can find again. Write it down.

02
Free sag

Bike on the ground, nobody on it. Bounce it once and let it settle. Measure the same two points.

03
Rider sag

Sit on the bike in full gear, feet on the pegs, in your normal riding position. Have a friend hold the bike upright and a second one measure. Bounce and settle before the measurement.

04
Do the math

Free sag equals extended minus unladen. Rider sag equals extended minus laden. Run both through the calculator below.

05
Adjust preload

More preload reduces sag, less increases it. Change it, then measure again. Do not guess at the effect.

Preload collar: [00] Nm on the lock ring

Sag calculator

Enter your three measurements and your total rear travel. The math is the same on any bike, so this works beyond the Ultra Bee.

Interactive

Sag calculator

All measurements in millimeters, taken between the same two points every time.

Free sag0mm
Rider sag0mm
Rider sag, share of travel0%
Target rider sag0mmaim here
Where you are0%
Where you want to be30%

Enter your numbers.

Free sag well under 5% of travel with correct rider sag means the spring is too stiff for you. Preload maxed with rider sag still too deep means it is too soft. Neither is fixable with clickers.

Starting points by weight

These are starting points, not answers. Set sag first, then dial clickers from the numbers below and adjust from there. All clicker counts are from fully closed, turning out.

Rider weight, geared Rear compression Rear rebound Notes
130 to 150 lbs [00] out [00] out Softer spring may be needed if preload runs out.
150 to 170 lbs [00] out [00] out Closest to the stock spring's design range.
170 to 190 lbs [00] out [00] out Most common. Check sag before assuming stock is fine.
190 to 220 lbs [00] out [00] out Watch for preload running out. Stiffer spring likely.
Over 220 lbs Spring first Spring first No clicker setting fixes a spring that is too soft.

What the clickers do

Compression

Controls how fast the suspension moves under a hit. Too stiff and the bike deflects off roots and beats you up. Too soft and it dives through the travel and bottoms hard.

Rebound

Controls how fast it returns. Too fast and the bike bucks and feels nervous, especially over successive hits. Too slow and it packs down, riding lower and lower through a rough section until there is no travel left.

How to test a change
  • Two clicks at a time. One is hard to feel, four is a different bike.
  • One adjuster at a time, front or rear, never both.
  • Same section of trail, same speed, back to back. Memory of yesterday's ride is not data.
  • Write down every setting before you change it. Being able to go back is the whole point.

Symptom to adjustment

What you feel Likely cause Try
Harsh over small chatter Compression too stiff Two clicks softer on compression, then reassess.
Bottoms out on landings Too soft, or sag too deep Check sag first. Then two clicks stiffer on compression.
Rear kicks up over successive hits Rebound too fast Two clicks slower on rebound.
Rides lower and lower through rough sections Rebound too slow, packing down Two clicks faster on rebound.
Front pushes wide in turns Rear sag too deep, weight off the front Reduce rear sag before touching the fork.
Nothing helps, adjusters are at the end Wrong spring rate for your weight Spring change. Clickers cannot rescue this.
Clickers tune a spring that is right. They cannot rescue a spring that is wrong.

Gear in this video

Rear shock spring
Suspension

Rear Shock Spring, Rate Matched to Rider Weight

[000] to [000] lb rider · [00] N/mm
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Preload spanner tool
Suspension

Preload Spanner and Sag Measuring Tool

Fits stock collars · mm scale
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This video applies to
SUBUltra Bee SLBXLight Bee X, different shock TSTRSting R, own guide ERSSNot covered RAWRNot covered

The sag method works on any bike with a rear shock. The clicker starting points are Ultra Bee specific.

Send us your numbers

Measured your sag and not sure what it means? Send the three measurements, your geared weight, and where you ride to hello@motorhabit.com. We will tell you whether it is a preload problem or a spring problem.

MotorHabit
Fitment and installs

Set up on our own Ultra Bee across a range of rider weights, on the same trail, back to back. Where a number comes from the manufacturer's manual instead of our testing, we say so on the page.